Trial Tested

S5E4 - Houston Gordon: Persuasiveness Comes from Trust

He has prosecuted a serial killer and represented a mass murderer, but Houston Gordon’s greatest joy as a trial lawyer is representing catastrophically injured children. Listen as host Mike Herring uncovers the natural storyteller in Tennessee litigator Houston Gordon as they discuss Lt. William Calley and the My Lai Massacre, the clemency of Cyntoia Brown and the lessons learned from a 50-year career in the courtroom.

S5E3 - Benjamin Brafman: There Are No Shortcuts

Attorney Benjamin Brafman has represented some of the highest-profile white collar criminal defendants in New York. From Hollywood mogul Harvey Weinstein to NFL wide receiver Plaxico Burress to Executive Martin Shkreli, Brafman never wavers from his number one rule: Be the best-prepared person in the courtroom. Enjoy a discussion spanning Brafman’s 50-year career with host Dave Paul.

S5E2 - The Attica Prison Uprising of 1971 and its Legacy with Dr. Heather Ann Thompson

Historian Dr. Heather Ann Thompson always starts with the facts. Host Amy Gunn talks with Dr. Thompson about what happens when history gets it wrong, and her decades-long research into finding out the truth about what really happened at Attica Prison. Listen as they discuss Dr. Thompson’s book – Blood in the Water, The Attica Prison Uprising of 1971, and Its Legacy.

S5E1 - Civil Rights Attorney and Presidential Medal of Freedom Recipient Fred Gray

Iconic civil rights attorney, preacher and recent recipient of the ACTL Thurgood Marshall Equality and Justice Award, Fred Gray takes host Gregory K. Wells on a tour of the Tuskegee History Center. Known for representing Rosa Parks, Martin Luther King, Jr. and the victims of the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, listen as Gray discusses his life’s work fighting for equality and justice for all.

Special Episode: Mike Cody on Representing MLK Jr., Confronting Segregation and Running a 4:24 Mile

Mike Cody was on the trial team who represented Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and was one of the last attorney groups to speak with Dr. King prior to his murder. An avid runner, he’s logged in over 80,000 miles, using the exercise to process, relax and think about tough cases. Listen as Host Mike Herring speaks with Cody about segregation, Dr. King, and his life of legal service.

S4E6 - Andrew Coats, Successful Attorney, Officer in the Navy, Mayor, Dean, Professor and more….

Join Host Mike Herring as he speaks with Past President of the College, Andrew Coats. Coats talks about his journey in the Navy, law school, and prosecuting one of the biggest murder cases in the history of Oklahoma. Coats is known for his landmark argument in the US Supreme Court that broke the NCAA’s college football TV monopoly. His experience in the courtroom allows him to be a great teacher in the classroom. Insightful discussion – enjoy.

S4E5 - Author Kati Marton: “Just Do Not Engage with Skunks”

Kati Marton, a journalist, human rights activist, author, and great storyteller. Marton speaks about Angela Merkel’s iron composure and how nothing could rattle her. Trial lawyers are often goaded – learn by example from Angela Merkel; don’t take the bait. Join us as host Amy Gunn recounts excerpts from Kati Marton’s book The Chancellor, the Remarkable Odyssey of Angela Merkel.

S4E4 - Rick Friedman, An Advocate Teacher

Rick Friedman, trial lawyer, published author, teacher, attorney and influencer, joins host Dave Paul for an in-depth conversation on practicing law and the importance of mental health and therapy.

S4E3 - Newspaper Headline: “Enemies of the People”, After a Win in the High Court with Lord David Pannick

Lord Pannick, a Barrister for over 40 years and appointed by an independent committee to the House of Lords, has fascinating stories about his journey to becoming King's Counsel. Host Amy Gunn learns about Lord Pannick’s participation in Brexit as they talk law, Queens, Kings, and supreme courts. 

S4E2 - Boma Alabi Has the Willingness and a Desire to Serve

Boma Alabi is a commercial trial lawyer working in Nigeria while maintaining a large pro bono criminal workload. Boma is a fierce advocate and creator of a soon to be released App aimed at helping citizens being targeted and harassed by government agencies. Listen as host Amy Gunn talks to Boma about leaving her home country and returning years later to practice law while giving citizens a tool to be safe on the streets.